{"id":21105,"date":"2009-02-23T20:07:30","date_gmt":"2009-02-23T20:07:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.singleaspect.org.uk\/?p=21105"},"modified":"2009-02-23T20:07:30","modified_gmt":"2009-02-23T20:07:30","slug":"the-smithsons-transcript","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/singleaspect.org.uk\/?p=21105","title":{"rendered":"The Smithsons &#8211; transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>AS: Society at the moment asks architects to build these new homes for them but I<\/p>\n<p>0:22<\/p>\n<p>mean this may be really stupid we may have to rethink the whole thing it may<\/p>\n<p>0:26<\/p>\n<p>be that we should only be asked to to repair the roofs and add the odd<\/p>\n<p>0:31<\/p>\n<p>bathroom to the old industrial houses and just leave people where they are to<\/p>\n<p>0:36<\/p>\n<p>smash it up in complete abandon and happiness so that nobody has to worry<\/p>\n<p>0:41<\/p>\n<p>about it anymore<\/p>\n<p>0:43<\/p>\n<p>PS: We still feel under an obligation to give the absolutely that the to provide<\/p>\n<p>0:50<\/p>\n<p>the best possible quality irrespective of what people expect and what treatment<\/p>\n<p>0:57<\/p>\n<p>it it&#8217;s going to get.<\/p>\n<p>1:02<\/p>\n<p>Narrator: Yet another building site in the East End of London. An East End rebuilt almost<\/p>\n<p>1:08<\/p>\n<p>out of recognition to those who knew it before the war but this site is<\/p>\n<p>1:12<\/p>\n<p>different there are no tower blocks for one thing. It&#8217;s by allison and peter<\/p>\n<p>1:17<\/p>\n<p>smithson virtually the only british architects to have an international<\/p>\n<p>1:21<\/p>\n<p>reputation and whose influence on architecture since the war&#8217;s been out<\/p>\n<p>1:25<\/p>\n<p>of all proportion to the relatively small amount of their work to be built.<\/p>\n<p>1:28<\/p>\n<p>their school at Hunstanton Norfolk and the economist office building in St<\/p>\n<p>1:33<\/p>\n<p>James&#8217;s London embodied significant innovations but their chief interest<\/p>\n<p>1:37<\/p>\n<p>is housing and they&#8217;ve done much important theoretical work on it. This<\/p>\n<p>1:41<\/p>\n<p>site at Poplar however represents the first opportunity they&#8217;ve had to put<\/p>\n<p>1:45<\/p>\n<p>their ideas on housing into practice and inevitably perhaps it&#8217;s very far from<\/p>\n<p>1:49<\/p>\n<p>being just another lot of council flats.<\/p>\n<p>PS: We regard it as a demonstration of a more<\/p>\n<p>1:55<\/p>\n<p>enjoyable way of living in an old industrial part of a city it is a model<\/p>\n<p>2:01<\/p>\n<p>an examplar of a new mode of urban organization and we think we have here a<\/p>\n<p>2:09<\/p>\n<p>site big enough so that when it&#8217;s finished you&#8217;ll be able to smell feel<\/p>\n<p>2:15<\/p>\n<p>and experience the new life that&#8217;s being offered through your full range of<\/p>\n<p>2:20<\/p>\n<p>senses.<\/p>\n<p>AS: A general objective when we get a new site is to knit together what is<\/p>\n<p>2:28<\/p>\n<p>good in the surroundings by the insertion of a new building to inject<\/p>\n<p>2:34<\/p>\n<p>thereby new life even to buildings and things that are old and tired. Right from<\/p>\n<p>2:42<\/p>\n<p>the start we began to identify with a site to put down mental roots hooking<\/p>\n<p>2:50<\/p>\n<p>onto rosebay willowherb, the children overturning wrecked cars, the smell of<\/p>\n<p>2:55<\/p>\n<p>curry on the stairs, rejected tenements, oddments of past character or obvious<\/p>\n<p>3:04<\/p>\n<p>large identifying fixes of the district or the city or even the region in our<\/p>\n<p>3:11<\/p>\n<p>case, the big power stations. In the late forties and early fifties when we first<\/p>\n<p>3:19<\/p>\n<p>started thinking about housing the lack of identity and the lack of a pattern,<\/p>\n<p>3:25<\/p>\n<p>any pattern of association we used to talk of objects as found, that is<\/p>\n<p>3:32<\/p>\n<p>anything and everything can be raised by association to become the portrait of<\/p>\n<p>3:38<\/p>\n<p>the ordinary and in this way an industrial site is very easy to identify<\/p>\n<p>3:46<\/p>\n<p>with compared with a semi detached housing estate a site on an industrial<\/p>\n<p>3:52<\/p>\n<p>blight or ones industrial heritage depends how you look at it can very<\/p>\n<p>3:59<\/p>\n<p>easily be used to renew a district to re-identify and become a real piece<\/p>\n<p>4:07<\/p>\n<p>of urban renewal. This is something to do with urban scale and that industrial<\/p>\n<p>4:14<\/p>\n<p>sites are somehow forthright and honest. This may be a personal thing as coming<\/p>\n<p>4:22<\/p>\n<p>from the Northeast we see the ships as connectors of people to their district<\/p>\n<p>4:28<\/p>\n<p>and to the world outside. On this side the ships can be a decoration to the<\/p>\n<p>4:35<\/p>\n<p>urban scene &#8211; the ships on the Thames approach the Isle of Dogs turn at right<\/p>\n<p>4:42<\/p>\n<p>angles and go past. The river is the biggest fix of all a big geographical<\/p>\n<p>4:50<\/p>\n<p>fix there are also two historical fixes which affect our site. The East India<\/p>\n<p>4:57<\/p>\n<p>dock of 1806 and the 1844 railway.<\/p>\n<p>5:04<\/p>\n<p>AS: When we started work three and a half years ago and you could still walk up to<\/p>\n<p>5:10<\/p>\n<p>the fifth floor the now-demolished tenements you could look over the<\/p>\n<p>5:15<\/p>\n<p>upcoming roar the tunnel traffic into the East India dock. Calm sheet of water a<\/p>\n<p>5:24<\/p>\n<p>few ships. Now when we&#8217;ve reached the fifth floor level again it&#8217;s being<\/p>\n<p>5:30<\/p>\n<p>filled and when you should be able to see it from the houses you won&#8217;t be able<\/p>\n<p>5:36<\/p>\n<p>to. We&#8217;ll be left with a handful of China shards on the site maybe ballast from<\/p>\n<p>5:45<\/p>\n<p>the East Indiaman, maybe cargo fallout used locally<\/p>\n<p>5:52<\/p>\n<p>This is not to say we relied on the East India dock or any other fix for<\/p>\n<p>5:58<\/p>\n<p>support.<\/p>\n<p>5:59<\/p>\n<p>We realize you&#8217;re in a situation of flux and change. The life has gone from the<\/p>\n<p>6:09<\/p>\n<p>two historical fixes on site and the ships on the terms are literally passing<\/p>\n<p>6:18<\/p>\n<p>either down to TIbury if the container port opens or to Antwerp and<\/p>\n<p>6:26<\/p>\n<p>Delta port if it doesn&#8217;t. We realize you have to be strong enough to be<\/p>\n<p>6:33<\/p>\n<p>self-supporting. Big enough to be self-supporting, that you have to carry<\/p>\n<p>6:40<\/p>\n<p>the full responsibility for renewal of your part of the district and ultimately<\/p>\n<p>6:47<\/p>\n<p>of the city<\/p>\n<p>6:48<\/p>\n<p>PS: The site is bounded on three sides by very heavy traffic on the left the<\/p>\n<p>6:55<\/p>\n<p>northern approach to the Blackwall tunnel at the bottom the east in your<\/p>\n<p>6:59<\/p>\n<p>dock road which shared you to grow from a four-lane to a six-lane highway and on<\/p>\n<p>7:04<\/p>\n<p>the right by Cotton street the main feeder road to the Isle of Dogs.<\/p>\n<p>7:10<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ve tried to overcome the problems of this high level of traffic noise in a<\/p>\n<p>7:15<\/p>\n<p>number of ways. At the edge of the back line of payment as near as we can get<\/p>\n<p>7:20<\/p>\n<p>the source of noise we put an acoustic wall which is higher than motorcars<\/p>\n<p>7:25<\/p>\n<p>which throws the noise back towards the road instead of allowing it to pass<\/p>\n<p>7:30<\/p>\n<p>through towards the building. But to stop it looking like a prison, the wall panels<\/p>\n<p>7:36<\/p>\n<p>have angle gaps between them &#8211; so if you walk along you can seek keep seeing<\/p>\n<p>7:41<\/p>\n<p>through but there is no direct path for sound to pass through. Inside this a line of<\/p>\n<p>7:49<\/p>\n<p>trees helps to break up the sound of traffic, and the building&#8217;s themselves<\/p>\n<p>7:54<\/p>\n<p>have been deliberately organized to create an area in the center of the site<\/p>\n<p>7:58<\/p>\n<p>protected from noise. A stress-free zone. The buildings are not organized like<\/p>\n<p>8:04<\/p>\n<p>filing cabinets one after the other.<\/p>\n<p>8:06<\/p>\n<p>The site has been split like a kipper with the same functions on the inside in<\/p>\n<p>8:12<\/p>\n<p>each building on the outside we put the noisy next to the noisy that is the<\/p>\n<p>8:18<\/p>\n<p>walkways or decks and the living rooms &#8211; but the living room themselves are<\/p>\n<p>8:24<\/p>\n<p>protected by these vertical pieces which stop noise traveling across the face of<\/p>\n<p>8:29<\/p>\n<p>the building and by designing the windows so that they can check in a<\/p>\n<p>8:33<\/p>\n<p>position that admits air at the top but present prevents the entry of direct<\/p>\n<p>8:38<\/p>\n<p>noise at the bottom. With these various devices we can get the noise level in<\/p>\n<p>8:44<\/p>\n<p>the living rooms down to a reasonable level. On the inside away and protected<\/p>\n<p>8:51<\/p>\n<p>from noise we place the bedrooms and the kitchen. The kitchens are so planned that a<\/p>\n<p>8:56<\/p>\n<p>mother can keep an eye on a two to three year old child playing out on the access<\/p>\n<p>9:01<\/p>\n<p>deck on one side and also from time to time<\/p>\n<p>9:05<\/p>\n<p>look down on the other side into the into these play spaces which are<\/p>\n<p>9:10<\/p>\n<p>intended for the somewhat older children. In the middle of the stress free zone<\/p>\n<p>9:15<\/p>\n<p>the ground is modeled upwards to discourage people from playing football<\/p>\n<p>9:19<\/p>\n<p>and so making excessive noise though provision for<\/p>\n<p>9:23<\/p>\n<p>football is made elsewhere on the site. The mound doesn&#8217;t look very large on the<\/p>\n<p>9:29<\/p>\n<p>model but it is in fact two stories high and it will be surprising eminence<\/p>\n<p>9:34<\/p>\n<p>within the flat landscape of the site. There is already in London one place<\/p>\n<p>9:39<\/p>\n<p>that has a central stress-free zone and that is Gray&#8217;s Inn. Gray&#8217;s Inn is still an<\/p>\n<p>9:47<\/p>\n<p>extraordinarily civilized place. It has become more livable as traffic has got<\/p>\n<p>9:54<\/p>\n<p>worse by contrast to the areas surrounding it.<\/p>\n<p>9:57<\/p>\n<p>Its little pool of calm in central London is one of the real discoveries<\/p>\n<p>10:03<\/p>\n<p>almost of the last 10 years. The idea that one could having rooms,<\/p>\n<p>10:09<\/p>\n<p>chambers there looking out onto this quiet central tree-filled area is marvellous.<\/p>\n<p>10:14<\/p>\n<p>AS: London has these simple good spaces but above this scale there&#8217;s virtually nothing.<\/p>\n<p>10:22<\/p>\n<p>London really has never faced up to being more than a collection of villages.<\/p>\n<p>10:27<\/p>\n<p>PS: No, the idea that you could have a collection, a scatter of events<\/p>\n<p>10:34<\/p>\n<p>as a city it is quite acceptable to us providing of course that the<\/p>\n<p>10:39<\/p>\n<p>communication systems work well. But, when the city becomes big when the city<\/p>\n<p>10:46<\/p>\n<p>becomes an urban region the scale of the parts, the scale of these events that the<\/p>\n<p>10:51<\/p>\n<p>pieces of the scatter, the scale of them&#8217;s got to be increased so that it<\/p>\n<p>10:56<\/p>\n<p>matches the scale of the urban region and that the scale of the communication<\/p>\n<p>11:00<\/p>\n<p>systems the scale of its leisure areas the scale of the zones of operation of<\/p>\n<p>11:06<\/p>\n<p>the city all about to get bigger and more obviously structured and inter<\/p>\n<p>11:11<\/p>\n<p>related to one another<\/p>\n<p>11:13<\/p>\n<p>Structured and interrelated so that they can be read as easily by ordinary people<\/p>\n<p>11:18<\/p>\n<p>as we hope our building will be read. This site is just big enough for us<\/p>\n<p>11:24<\/p>\n<p>to say and for people to read a whole sentence in the language of architecture.<\/p>\n<p>11:29<\/p>\n<p>The language of architecture is something that can both explain and<\/p>\n<p>11:34<\/p>\n<p>enhance the use of a building.<\/p>\n<p>11:36<\/p>\n<p>Thus in an old building you recognize where the door is because it<\/p>\n<p>11:41<\/p>\n<p>is identified by portico. In a new building we have to produce equivalent<\/p>\n<p>11:46<\/p>\n<p>symbols which indicate where you&#8217;re supposed to walk in, where you drive, where you bring<\/p>\n<p>11:52<\/p>\n<p>the dust cart and so on.<\/p>\n<p>11:54<\/p>\n<p>On this site we&#8217;ve cut moats in the ground on the traffic side of the buildings and<\/p>\n<p>12:01<\/p>\n<p>there all vehicular movement and garaging take place. So coming to the<\/p>\n<p>12:06<\/p>\n<p>building as a walker from a bus stop<\/p>\n<p>12:09<\/p>\n<p>you never come into contact with vehicles and conversely the driver of the<\/p>\n<p>12:13<\/p>\n<p>dust card has no fear of knocking down an old lady.<\/p>\n<p>12:17<\/p>\n<p>Similarly the building&#8217;s themselves explain how they are intended to be used.<\/p>\n<p>12:21<\/p>\n<p>These long horizontal recesses can only be decks for walking along, and the entry<\/p>\n<p>12:27<\/p>\n<p>points to them by way of lifts and stairs the vertical movements are clearly<\/p>\n<p>12:32<\/p>\n<p>indicated by the change of scale and volume. On the decks there are what we<\/p>\n<p>12:37<\/p>\n<p>call \u201ceddy places\u201d outside the front doors where the dwelling takes a piece<\/p>\n<p>12:42<\/p>\n<p>of the deck for itself so your doormat is not kicked aside by the passers by<\/p>\n<p>12:47<\/p>\n<p>and you can put out a few pots of plants or leave parcels. This \u201ceddy places\u201d is out of<\/p>\n<p>12:54<\/p>\n<p>the general flow of movement along the deck. The deck itself is wide enough for the<\/p>\n<p>13:00<\/p>\n<p>milkman to bring his cart along, or for two women with prams to stop for a talk and<\/p>\n<p>13:05<\/p>\n<p>still let the postman by, and the building also explains its use in that<\/p>\n<p>13:10<\/p>\n<p>wherever you need to take hold of something or move around some woodwork<\/p>\n<p>13:14<\/p>\n<p>of concrete element then there&#8217;s a smooth rounded corner. Its form will<\/p>\n<p>13:22<\/p>\n<p>respond we hope to the way people want to live now with their equipment, their<\/p>\n<p>13:27<\/p>\n<p>domestic appliances, and their cars. In a way it would be like the first Georgian<\/p>\n<p>13:34<\/p>\n<p>Square in london it will be to outsiders something that they can, they can<\/p>\n<p>13:40<\/p>\n<p>immediately see is a new form and to the people who live in it it&#8217;s it offers a<\/p>\n<p>13:47<\/p>\n<p>a place with a special character that in which will release them and change them<\/p>\n<p>13:56<\/p>\n<p>and be capable of being lived in generation after generation. At the turn<\/p>\n<p>14:05<\/p>\n<p>of the century architects dreamed of garden cities and in every town and village in<\/p>\n<p>14:15<\/p>\n<p>England we see council houses built, built, and building right up till<\/p>\n<p>14:19<\/p>\n<p>today which are the children of the garden city idea &#8211; and in the twenties in<\/p>\n<p>14:27<\/p>\n<p>the heroic period of modern architecture the models, the prototypes, developed on<\/p>\n<p>14:34<\/p>\n<p>the continent for a simple clean sun giving architecture are now being built<\/p>\n<p>14:40<\/p>\n<p>in England in the Sixties. What we have now is people living in these clean<\/p>\n<p>14:47<\/p>\n<p>sun-drenched boxes with fitted carpets inside and vandalism outside.<\/p>\n<p>AS: The<\/p>\n<p>14:57<\/p>\n<p>realities of our working life are going to be traffic, noise, air pollution,<\/p>\n<p>15:04<\/p>\n<p>vandalism, lack of quality.<\/p>\n<p>PS: And the theory developed in the twenties and thirties<\/p>\n<p>15:11<\/p>\n<p>the simple architecture in which there will be few cars. This, this dream this<\/p>\n<p>15:20<\/p>\n<p>model has been overrun. Overrun by the glut of the supermarts and the glut<\/p>\n<p>15:26<\/p>\n<p>on the roads.<\/p>\n<p>AS: The accuracy of the brief given to architects makes for the reality. It<\/p>\n<p>15:37<\/p>\n<p>aids the architect&#8217;s accuracy in pinpointing the dream.<\/p>\n<p>15:42<\/p>\n<p>The brief given to our outside architects by the Greater London Council<\/p>\n<p>15:48<\/p>\n<p>is continually being revised by feedback from tenants and from their own<\/p>\n<p>15:55<\/p>\n<p>maintenance people. The GLC are probably the world&#8217;s best briefers of Architects<\/p>\n<p>16:01<\/p>\n<p>in this sense certainly I, I&#8217;ve never heard of any better. But although this is<\/p>\n<p>16:07<\/p>\n<p>done very responsibly the building of this mutated dream by all the people<\/p>\n<p>16:13<\/p>\n<p>concerned, it seems that the GLC really got very small thanks from Society for<\/p>\n<p>16:18<\/p>\n<p>this because when we take foreign visiting architect around these sites<\/p>\n<p>16:24<\/p>\n<p>they&#8217;re literally horrified at the amount of vandalism we see.<\/p>\n<p>PS: But<\/p>\n<p>16:30<\/p>\n<p>funnily enough that doesn&#8217;t seem to change one&#8217;s own attitudes towards<\/p>\n<p>16:34<\/p>\n<p>building. That is that we we still feel under an obligation to give the absolutely<\/p>\n<p>16:39<\/p>\n<p>that the &#8211; to provide the best possible quality irrespective of what people<\/p>\n<p>16:47<\/p>\n<p>expect and what treatment it it&#8217;s going to get,<\/p>\n<p>16:50<\/p>\n<p>nevertheless it&#8217;s very depressing for the contractors and the buil, the<\/p>\n<p>16:57<\/p>\n<p>builders, the contractors, the subcontractors and the architect to feel<\/p>\n<p>17:01<\/p>\n<p>that all the effort they&#8217;re putting in is going to be &#8211; much of the effort that<\/p>\n<p>17:05<\/p>\n<p>that they put in is going to be smashed up.<\/p>\n<p>17:07<\/p>\n<p>AS: I mean society at the moment asks architect to build these new homes for<\/p>\n<p>17:14<\/p>\n<p>them but I mean this may be really stupid we may have to rethink the whole<\/p>\n<p>17:20<\/p>\n<p>thing it may be that we should only be asked to to repair the roofs and add the<\/p>\n<p>17:26<\/p>\n<p>odd bathroom to the old industrial houses and just leave people where they<\/p>\n<p>17:31<\/p>\n<p>are to smash it up in complete abandon and happiness so that nobody has to worry<\/p>\n<p>17:36<\/p>\n<p>about it anymore. You know we may be asking people to live in a way that that<\/p>\n<p>17:43<\/p>\n<p>is stupid. They may be just want to you know be left alone.<\/p>\n<p>17:49<\/p>\n<p>PS: One of the men are inside said that this<\/p>\n<p>17:51<\/p>\n<p>what we were trying to do with too good for the people that were going to live<\/p>\n<p>17:54<\/p>\n<p>in it and we find this a unacceptable but to say that it&#8217;s too good but one<\/p>\n<p>18:04<\/p>\n<p>wonders why that&#8217;s what why one feels like that and I suspect that it&#8217;s partly<\/p>\n<p>18:09<\/p>\n<p>historical, that is that architects have always felt the need to build not for<\/p>\n<p>18:18<\/p>\n<p>the occupying generation but for, to sort of body out the ideals of their period in a<\/p>\n<p>18:25<\/p>\n<p>way that they could be felt by the by generations that follow. In the East<\/p>\n<p>18:32<\/p>\n<p>London there are five or six very famous churches. One of them is close to this<\/p>\n<p>18:38<\/p>\n<p>site St Annes Limehouse by Nicholas Hawksmoor. Now Hawksmoor couldn&#8217;t have<\/p>\n<p>18:46<\/p>\n<p>cared I suspect why he was asked to build these churches. They were built<\/p>\n<p>18:51<\/p>\n<p>buy having a coal tax with which the program for building them<\/p>\n<p>18:59<\/p>\n<p>was abandoned halfway through<\/p>\n<p>19:00<\/p>\n<p>in fact the things that happened him, the way the money was raised very similar to<\/p>\n<p>19:05<\/p>\n<p>the situation now, but he built in the best possible way and the building has<\/p>\n<p>19:11<\/p>\n<p>lived on through 10 or 15 generations into the present carrying the kind of ethos<\/p>\n<p>19:17<\/p>\n<p>of the early 17th century to us now and we feel in the same way an<\/p>\n<p>19:24<\/p>\n<p>obligation which is outside of the present financial or economic situation<\/p>\n<p>19:29<\/p>\n<p>to build for successive occupying generations.<\/p>\n<p>AS: Unless a building outlasts<\/p>\n<p>19:36<\/p>\n<p>its first users we get no body of choice that is there&#8217;s no pool of housing from<\/p>\n<p>19:44<\/p>\n<p>which people can choose how to live, where they want to live<\/p>\n<p>19:49<\/p>\n<p>and more important you get no buildup of a comparable body of quality. This was<\/p>\n<p>19:59<\/p>\n<p>the situation we stepped into after the war completely vandalised environment of<\/p>\n<p>20:05<\/p>\n<p>anything will do, make do, you know there were no possible standards because<\/p>\n<p>20:12<\/p>\n<p>there was nothing &#8211; nothing decent to compare things to. Therefore maintenance<\/p>\n<p>20:19<\/p>\n<p>of quality objects is a real cultural necessity. Londoners are not particularly<\/p>\n<p>20:26<\/p>\n<p>good at this I don&#8217;t think they really know about it, that is if culture of cities was a<\/p>\n<p>20:31<\/p>\n<p>criteria for joining the common market, any African state would have as good a<\/p>\n<p>20:37<\/p>\n<p>chance as Londoners have.<\/p>\n<p>PS: If we&#8217;re not to be torn apart by our differing<\/p>\n<p>20:43<\/p>\n<p>individual natures as makers and destroyers society has to to to to make<\/p>\n<p>20:48<\/p>\n<p>a framework so that the that the the makers can get ahead of the destroyers.<\/p>\n<p>20:55<\/p>\n<p>AS: Although it&#8217;s not the architects business to talk about, think about up mechanisms<\/p>\n<p>21:03<\/p>\n<p>for changing the responsibility for housing in order to combat vandalism it<\/p>\n<p>21:12<\/p>\n<p>is our duty to speak about it in order to safeguard the architects dream of what<\/p>\n<p>21:19<\/p>\n<p>housing could be like and there are obviously understood ways, such as giving<\/p>\n<p>21:26<\/p>\n<p>a tenant full responsibility for keeping the house and the outside the<\/p>\n<p>21:30<\/p>\n<p>door step and the grounds in perfect condition to hand onto the next<\/p>\n<p>21:37<\/p>\n<p>generation who after all are an extension of ourselves they&#8217;re not some<\/p>\n<p>21:42<\/p>\n<p>nebulous character<\/p>\n<p>PS: At the moment there is a terrific lack of fit between those<\/p>\n<p>21:50<\/p>\n<p>things which people own, the way people treat things they own and the, the way<\/p>\n<p>21:55<\/p>\n<p>they think about and treat what is in the public<\/p>\n<p>21:59<\/p>\n<p>area of ownership.<\/p>\n<p>22:03<\/p>\n<p>This is reflected terribly obviously in the, when you go to any, any dwelling<\/p>\n<p>22:09<\/p>\n<p>any house in any part of the country the inside is almost always well-kept well<\/p>\n<p>22:15<\/p>\n<p>furnished, clean. The outside, particularly in state housing. Broken lifts, smashed-up<\/p>\n<p>22:24<\/p>\n<p>glass in entrance halls, all the things we all know, know about. The architect is in<\/p>\n<p>22:31<\/p>\n<p>a strange situation, but he can recognize that the peoples aspirations about how<\/p>\n<p>22:37<\/p>\n<p>they wish to behave.<\/p>\n<p>22:41<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s a funny way of putting it, are<\/p>\n<p>22:45<\/p>\n<p>changing that is in spite of the vandalism, that people are learning to<\/p>\n<p>22:51<\/p>\n<p>expect a style of life which has more quality, and in a sense more control<\/p>\n<p>23:02<\/p>\n<p>and this is most clearly seen in the leisure pattern.<\/p>\n<p>23:06<\/p>\n<p>Ironically enough an opportunity to extend this leisure pattern on a huge<\/p>\n<p>23:11<\/p>\n<p>scale is being missed not far from our site.<\/p>\n<p>AS: The scale of the London Docks is the<\/p>\n<p>23:16<\/p>\n<p>sort of scale we&#8217;re talking about this is an area equal to medieval London and<\/p>\n<p>23:22<\/p>\n<p>yet it&#8217;s a tiny area scene in the whole greater london in region. A few water<\/p>\n<p>23:32<\/p>\n<p>parks at that scale not needing grass-cutting no trouble with<\/p>\n<p>23:36<\/p>\n<p>footballers wearing the surface off. This water as leisure pleasure structured<\/p>\n<p>23:44<\/p>\n<p>housing groups is the european fashion at the moment. For Tower Hamlets such a fashion<\/p>\n<p>23:51<\/p>\n<p>is an economic bonanza like having an oil well in the back garden, or backyard<\/p>\n<p>23:57<\/p>\n<p>in their case. France has a regional plan<\/p>\n<p>24:01<\/p>\n<p>which is Rousillon to Languedoc virtually Marseille to the Spanish border<\/p>\n<p>24:06<\/p>\n<p>of water pleasure structured towns. As well as this there&#8217;s development all<\/p>\n<p>24:17<\/p>\n<p>along the coast, and architects Spoerry has built his dream of what housing could be<\/p>\n<p>24:26<\/p>\n<p>like in relation to water using for this town traditional provincaI materials<\/p>\n<p>24:33<\/p>\n<p>and the peasant language of architecture, but his dream was of a pedestrian town<\/p>\n<p>24:40<\/p>\n<p>and the house owners in Port Grimaud take the cars into load\/unload but take them<\/p>\n<p>24:48<\/p>\n<p>outside to park. Therefore this town is a pleasure to use, it works it&#8217;s a real<\/p>\n<p>24:56<\/p>\n<p>economic success the sort of place you can take your children to to the beach<\/p>\n<p>25:01<\/p>\n<p>and they can go get an ice cream and you just don&#8217;t have to worry about it &#8211; and it<\/p>\n<p>25:06<\/p>\n<p>only started in June 1966. We, we could allow ourselves such<\/p>\n<p>25:14<\/p>\n<p>pleasures in London we needn&#8217;t be so puritanical about the fact that<\/p>\n<p>25:19<\/p>\n<p>the dock water is right next the River Thames and so near the Lea Valley leisure<\/p>\n<p>25:25<\/p>\n<p>pleasure grounds. Venice sinks in the mud, they&#8217;ll be round collecting to save it.<\/p>\n<p>25:32<\/p>\n<p>Prop it up. We could have a a new Venice in London. It&#8217;s virtually the same size if<\/p>\n<p>25:42<\/p>\n<p>you take from St Katharine&#8217;s dock by the tower to East India Dock which is by<\/p>\n<p>25:49<\/p>\n<p>our site.<\/p>\n<p>25:50<\/p>\n<p>The people who will live in Robin Hood gardens will use this way out of London<\/p>\n<p>25:56<\/p>\n<p>in their cars. They&#8217;re the privileged few in our society they enjoy the welfare<\/p>\n<p>26:06<\/p>\n<p>state they don&#8217;t have heavy taxes to give them angst and it&#8217;s not for them to<\/p>\n<p>26:13<\/p>\n<p>worry about the quality of the motorway, the fact that the fences are inconsistent the<\/p>\n<p>26:20<\/p>\n<p>lampposts are ugly or there are too many signs the bypassed and the bypasses are<\/p>\n<p>26:29<\/p>\n<p>unprotected, the generation younger than ours extremely depressed about the lack<\/p>\n<p>26:36<\/p>\n<p>of quality in the road program, considering so<\/p>\n<p>26:43<\/p>\n<p>many roads are being built in Germany and in America. It&#8217;s as if we were a country of<\/p>\n<p>26:48<\/p>\n<p>ostriches but our attitude to motorways, ring ways is at last, a chance of a great reversal.<\/p>\n<p>PS: A chance<\/p>\n<p>27:01<\/p>\n<p>at last to get all traffic out of domestic environments. 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